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		<title>By: radloh</title>
		<link>http://sevenfatcow.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/this-just-in-now-all-children-go-to-heaven/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>radloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>y-love I don&#039;t know where to begin. But let me just say, you are dead wrong, and I love you anyway. more to come...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y-love I don&#8217;t know where to begin. But let me just say, you are dead wrong, and I love you anyway. more to come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Y-Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y-Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JudaISM isn&#039;t racist and f**ked up -- for that matter neither is CatholicISM.  -Isms are systems of thought, neither white nor black, neither male nor female, neither gay nor straight.  A problem with Jews is not a problem with JudaISM, and that which Jews do or traits which Jews xhibit may or may not have anything to do with JudaISM.

Judaism DOES place gentile children in Heaven, check perek Cheilek in Sanhedrin, check Parshas Ha&#039;azinu -- the pasuk &lt;i&gt;af chovev amim&lt;/i&gt;.  The Amora Shmuel had his goyishe friend Avleit (from the Gemara in Avoda Z), Rebbi chilled with Antoninus, and we learn all sorts of things -- from &lt;i&gt;kibud av v&#039;em&lt;/i&gt; to table manners -- from goyim.  Would Shmuel be able to have his goyishe friend over for dinner in today&#039;s B&#039;nei Brak?  Would you find a rav today in Meah Shearim saying &quot;if you want to know how to eat like a mentsch, go to Ramallah and watch how the sheikh eats&quot;?

Charedim are humanistic, non-racist, and wonderful.  The only question in my mind is, &quot;where are the real Charedim&quot;?  

&quot;Fags die&quot;?  There is a Yerushalmi (Jachnoun knows all of this) which speaks of a gay couple who were caught having sex -- actual &quot;we&#039;re going to stone this motherf***er&quot; mishkav zachar -- by one witness, and we know that &lt;i&gt;al pi shnayim eidim yakum davar&lt;/i&gt;.  We don&#039;t find that witness going and doing anything after that -- i.e., trying to get other witnesses or nominating them for the barley-in-the-stomach death by Beis Din.  What would happen today?  

Who is more charedi -- a group of Chassidim in Meah Shearim or Chaza&quot;l?  

Shabbos smokers die?  The Chofetz Chaim saw someone breaking Shabbos, what did he do?  He grabbed his hand and cried over the person&#039;s lack of recognition of Shabbos.  Would the Chofetz Chaim have given a &lt;i&gt;clop&lt;/i&gt; on a bimah and said, &quot;Rabosai!  Shteht in pasuk &#039;u&#039;biarta ha&#039;ra m&#039;kirbecha&#039;!!  Chaptzem!!!&quot;?  Would Chaza&quot;l have thrown rocks or bags of cholent at cars?

The dying you refer to comes from a perversion of halacha, not an upholding of halacha.  Do you think Moshe Rabbeinu -- with his Sudanese/Ethiopian wife -- would have been able to rent an apartment in Boro Park?  Or the Ethiopian Amora R&#039; Yochanan m&#039;Hundakei from Kiddushin?  Or -- f**k it -- even the Arizal, since he left being Ashkenazi and became Sephardi (gasp!)?

And don&#039;t take Psalm 137 out of context.  See the first few verses, post traumatic stress based on involuntary relocation?  Bro you&#039;d say the same thing if you had to leave your country and walk around anti-Semitic neighborhoods 24/7.  

I don&#039;t think all Charedim are humanistic or anything.  I think that the word Charedi being used to refer to everyone from the guy who slapped my friend in the face for her not being tznius enough in Bnei Brak to Moshe Rabbeinu is a travesty, sick, and a complete distortion of what Torah stands for.  I think the word Charedi needs to be reclaimed and redefined by ppl who actually want to do what G-d wants done, not just what the Rav said was a &quot;mitzvah chiyuvis&quot;.

If Moses were around, there would be about 6 yeshivos in Brooklyn, and about 45 rebbeim.  The rest would have been sent out of the camp -- to Long Island -- for being tamei.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JudaISM isn&#8217;t racist and f**ked up &#8212; for that matter neither is CatholicISM.  -Isms are systems of thought, neither white nor black, neither male nor female, neither gay nor straight.  A problem with Jews is not a problem with JudaISM, and that which Jews do or traits which Jews xhibit may or may not have anything to do with JudaISM.</p>
<p>Judaism DOES place gentile children in Heaven, check perek Cheilek in Sanhedrin, check Parshas Ha&#8217;azinu &#8212; the pasuk <i>af chovev amim</i>.  The Amora Shmuel had his goyishe friend Avleit (from the Gemara in Avoda Z), Rebbi chilled with Antoninus, and we learn all sorts of things &#8212; from <i>kibud av v&#8217;em</i> to table manners &#8212; from goyim.  Would Shmuel be able to have his goyishe friend over for dinner in today&#8217;s B&#8217;nei Brak?  Would you find a rav today in Meah Shearim saying &#8220;if you want to know how to eat like a mentsch, go to Ramallah and watch how the sheikh eats&#8221;?</p>
<p>Charedim are humanistic, non-racist, and wonderful.  The only question in my mind is, &#8220;where are the real Charedim&#8221;?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Fags die&#8221;?  There is a Yerushalmi (Jachnoun knows all of this) which speaks of a gay couple who were caught having sex &#8212; actual &#8220;we&#8217;re going to stone this motherf***er&#8221; mishkav zachar &#8212; by one witness, and we know that <i>al pi shnayim eidim yakum davar</i>.  We don&#8217;t find that witness going and doing anything after that &#8212; i.e., trying to get other witnesses or nominating them for the barley-in-the-stomach death by Beis Din.  What would happen today?  </p>
<p>Who is more charedi &#8212; a group of Chassidim in Meah Shearim or Chaza&#8221;l?  </p>
<p>Shabbos smokers die?  The Chofetz Chaim saw someone breaking Shabbos, what did he do?  He grabbed his hand and cried over the person&#8217;s lack of recognition of Shabbos.  Would the Chofetz Chaim have given a <i>clop</i> on a bimah and said, &#8220;Rabosai!  Shteht in pasuk &#8216;u&#8217;biarta ha&#8217;ra m&#8217;kirbecha&#8217;!!  Chaptzem!!!&#8221;?  Would Chaza&#8221;l have thrown rocks or bags of cholent at cars?</p>
<p>The dying you refer to comes from a perversion of halacha, not an upholding of halacha.  Do you think Moshe Rabbeinu &#8212; with his Sudanese/Ethiopian wife &#8212; would have been able to rent an apartment in Boro Park?  Or the Ethiopian Amora R&#8217; Yochanan m&#8217;Hundakei from Kiddushin?  Or &#8212; f**k it &#8212; even the Arizal, since he left being Ashkenazi and became Sephardi (gasp!)?</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t take Psalm 137 out of context.  See the first few verses, post traumatic stress based on involuntary relocation?  Bro you&#8217;d say the same thing if you had to leave your country and walk around anti-Semitic neighborhoods 24/7.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think all Charedim are humanistic or anything.  I think that the word Charedi being used to refer to everyone from the guy who slapped my friend in the face for her not being tznius enough in Bnei Brak to Moshe Rabbeinu is a travesty, sick, and a complete distortion of what Torah stands for.  I think the word Charedi needs to be reclaimed and redefined by ppl who actually want to do what G-d wants done, not just what the Rav said was a &#8220;mitzvah chiyuvis&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Moses were around, there would be about 6 yeshivos in Brooklyn, and about 45 rebbeim.  The rest would have been sent out of the camp &#8212; to Long Island &#8212; for being tamei.</p>
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		<title>By: radloh</title>
		<link>http://sevenfatcow.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/this-just-in-now-all-children-go-to-heaven/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>radloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Judaism ain&#039;t as racist and Fucked up as Catholiciam is. Give the Charedim the world, as it was given to the Catholic church, and they will do even worse. Oh, like Judaism places gentile chidren in Heaven? How about King David&#039;s poem about the chidren of Isreal&#039;s enemies &quot;Ashrai Sheyoiachez V&#039;nipaitz Es Oililayich Al Hasolah, praised is he who will grab your children and swing them against the rock. I&#039;m sick of Charedim thinking that they are merciful and tolerant and like they have some kind of better system for the  world.
Under Charedi Govt: All fags die; all shabbos smokers die. Hey, if Moses was round I would have been killed like ten thousand times already. So a big fuck you to Ylove for thinking that Charedim are like humanistic or something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Judaism ain&#8217;t as racist and Fucked up as Catholiciam is. Give the Charedim the world, as it was given to the Catholic church, and they will do even worse. Oh, like Judaism places gentile chidren in Heaven? How about King David&#8217;s poem about the chidren of Isreal&#8217;s enemies &#8220;Ashrai Sheyoiachez V&#8217;nipaitz Es Oililayich Al Hasolah, praised is he who will grab your children and swing them against the rock. I&#8217;m sick of Charedim thinking that they are merciful and tolerant and like they have some kind of better system for the  world.<br />
Under Charedi Govt: All fags die; all shabbos smokers die. Hey, if Moses was round I would have been killed like ten thousand times already. So a big fuck you to Ylove for thinking that Charedim are like humanistic or something</p>
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		<title>By: Yoseph Leib</title>
		<link>http://sevenfatcow.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/this-just-in-now-all-children-go-to-heaven/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoseph Leib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they haven&#039;t caught on to the power of singing the enemy&#039;s songs yet, as far as we know. that would be the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they haven&#8217;t caught on to the power of singing the enemy&#8217;s songs yet, as far as we know. that would be the end.</p>
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