gay sex in the mikva: holy?
November 17, 2006
http://ashejournal.com/eleven/51_michaelson.pdf
Jay Michaelson is the most inisightful writer of our generation re: the religious impulse, Judaism, buddism and their limitations, and queer spirituality. Here’s an amazing piece about his life, growing up religious and fellating a young man at a mikvah, in the sweetesrt least sleazy way possible.
He publishes and edits zeek (www.zeek.net) and had me write a piece for it called Tree of Life largely about chassidis and psychedelics in prehistory. Read his writings, and become a better person for it.
And check out
http://ashejournal.com/ The journal of experimental spirituality, which this piece is from. Some amazing stuff here.
http://www.metatronics.net/words/aa.htm
A great piece on the origins of philosphical anti-semitism, and the problem with law that the whole world associated with Us.
http://www.blithe.com/10.2/10.2.02.html
What if the pasuk forbidding homosexualiy vanished from every chumash and sefer Torah? would it solve the problem?
-yo
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RightWinger | November 17, 2006 at 8:00 pm
Homosexuality is an abomination !
God created Adam & Eve , not Adam & Steve !
The Bible says “be fruitful and multiply” , it does not say be a fruit !
I am glad they allow gays in the army , they should also let them jump out of airplanes without parachutes !
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F.E.O. | March 13, 2007 at 8:34 pm
I think this is a Gay erea I meen Gray erea
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leah kleim | March 15, 2007 at 11:46 pm
personally I think it would be hot to watch 2 horney chassidim get it on in the mikva
http://babyboiiluvu.blogspot.com/index.html
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mendel tumel | March 20, 2007 at 4:05 am
Leah Kleim you are disgusting!
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leah kleim | March 20, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Mendel I would love to watch you get shtuped up the ass in the mikva on erev shabbos, na fuck you on erev yom kippur after a fat lubavitcher shoves his salami down your fucking throat and makes you gag and sing hava na gila while he shoots a fat load all over your fucking face, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FUCK OFF !
http://babyboiiluvu.blogspot.com/index.html
I AM LEAH KLEIM, THATS WHY YOU SHMUK!!!
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holygirl | March 20, 2007 at 5:51 pm
wow…reading your comments….is shocking…who would want to fuck a fat lubavitcher?? gay or straight….yuk….fuck a hot yeshiva boy…..guess, i’m just a frum fag hag from crown heights..
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leah kleim | March 21, 2007 at 8:53 am
Can you fucking read? or do you just like to run your mouth? I didnt say anyone would want to fuck a fat lubavitcher……..read it again S L O W L Y
http://babyboiiluvu.blogspot.com/index.html
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hiyavrom | March 29, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Interesting dude. He writes well and formats beautifully.
Once, he faulted his modorth folks for dray’ing with the mitzvos. Probably they (and he) were somewhat fardrayt’e if a kid experiencing adolescence in the 80’s had no idea of gay lifestyle. Interesting how all his rebbes knew nothing about the orgiasm in the y’shiva dorms; and even more so, that neither he nor his khevra had enough respect for their rebbes’ decency, integrity, and piety, to feel that they could talk with them.
Maybe it’s all related to the eruv-rav and the effects of the “kiruv” movement. Some imbecilities of Jewish institutionalism set this guy off. Or maybe it’s just plain “avayrah gorerres avayrah” + “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing” (“ayn bor lomed”). Or maybe it’s just that persons who allow themselves to be totally driven by their sexual fantasies, become confused by “light and darkness”. So this eloquent dudette has gone from dissing his parents’ Yiddishkeit, to proselytizing his own deviationism. The Torah says, You stink, dude (to’ayvah); and the RS”G cries.
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Yoseph Leib | April 1, 2007 at 10:28 pm
RS”G? Is that the R’ Saadiya Gaon?
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ari | April 17, 2007 at 12:06 am
Homosexuality is not an abomination. The attraction to another person of the same sex is not itself a violation of halacha. The Torah speaks of a specific act, namely anal sex between 2 men (see Rashi on this). It is interesting though, that frum Jews don’t get nearly as angry or feel as threatened by other Jews practicing other “abominable” things like eating shellfish. It seems to me, that sexual attractions are far more naturally occurring and harder to control. So, rather than jump on your fake-outraged bandwagon and spout out what you’ve been programmed to say, think and feel…calmly consider these things.
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | April 17, 2007 at 12:13 am
I once asked a rabbi about this and he reluctantly admitted that sex between two men, short of and not including anal sex, is no more a violation of halacha than “spilling seed”. of course there is absolutely no prohibition in torah about two women having sexual relations.
yalhak
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Irving Spielberg | April 22, 2007 at 7:07 pm
I used to wonder why Old Testament prophet Zechariah (and not fundies like Falwell) predicted that two-thirds of Jews will be “cut off” in the endtimes and how that lined up with another prediction that G-d will remove “ungodliness from Jacob” while turning certain people “over to a reprobate mind” [that is, Satan] without their even being aware that they’ve been “programed” by G-d, but then I ran into your site and things became clear that you are doing your unwitting part to help fulfill predictions and make them even more believable – all of which proves that many New Yorkers haven’t learned much of anything from their recent disasters! Irv
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The Viper | April 22, 2007 at 7:11 pm
irv,
a jew-for-jesus, by any chance? you sure smell like one.
viper
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The Rebbe Shlita | April 26, 2007 at 7:19 pm
chalav akum iz metamtem der moach un der lev, chalav yisrael is certaintly preferable
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gay-ex-choosid | April 30, 2007 at 4:57 pm
MENDEL, u wanna have a go at it in the mikvah?
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Jay | May 7, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Hey Yoseph – Thanks for the post – and apart from the usual flames, thanks commenters too! I do want to point out that “The Erotic Mikva” is *fiction* — sorry boys! Never happened. And that was never my life; though I was closeted and Orthodox in Jerusalem for a couple of years, I never made aliyah, never lived at a yeshiva, and in general never led the life that the narrator of the story led. For the 3 years I lived in Jerusalem, I did go to the mikva before every shabbos, and wondered about the strange mix of eroticism and anti-eroticism — not quite a locker room, not quite a shul. The story came from a mix of imagination and my (traditional and academic) study of Kabbalah. There are more where that came from; I’m hoping to get the collection published someday. In the meantime, my other work is at http://www.godinyourbody.com, http://www.nehirim.org, http://www.zeek.net, and http://www.metatronics.net.
P.S. There’s no fellatio in the story either – no mouth, just hands. Alas, more disappointment!
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Yossi | May 10, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Hi,
Did H.R. and you get in on in the “Scverer” Mikvah
on Kingston Ave. and in his Dorm on Montgomery and Troy about 18 years ago.
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F.F.B> | May 13, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Dear gay chosid check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-AV_IwXd3I&mode=related&search=
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lemo | May 14, 2007 at 2:15 am
male homosexuality is an abomination (female homosexuality is just plain hot) even on the Sopranos where murder is acceptable, they were absolutly discusted when they discovered that one of their own was a homo, and a catcher no less, justice was served and he was wacked.
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Yoseph Leib | May 14, 2007 at 4:19 am
right. if you want to know what the torah has to say about something, go watch an italian gangster: he will know, intuitively.
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di bist a putz | May 31, 2007 at 5:47 pm
no pictchers?
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LEAH KLEIM THE HIGH PRIESTESS OF SEVENFATCOW | June 28, 2007 at 4:41 am
AND THIS GOES BACK TO BEING THE TOP POST…..GO FUCKING FIGURE !
All the better than the rest of them fucking frummies scream and yell when the shit head bloggers post things like this.
BUT THEY STAY AT THE TOP !!!
THEY R THE POSTS THAT GET HIT HARDEST !!!
Ita so bad that Talis Man strap’s both heads in T’filin and that ppl r posting pics of bitches jumpin in the mikva. The shit head bloggers that post this shtus need to be stopped !!!!!
OH BUT THEN WHAT WOULD THE FRUM GOSSIP HUNGRY FUCKERS LOOK AT ??????
http://babyboiiluvu.blogspot.com/2007/06/talis-man-chokes-his-chickenzeh.html
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y and r, the bee and the rose | July 5, 2007 at 7:35 am
men shoudl jusdt stay in the mikva, never come out, that way they wil spare us poor women the brunt of the pain they inflict upon us
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Frum Yid | July 8, 2007 at 9:42 pm
I thank G-d for sending AIDS upon the homos and I enjoy watching them die. This is what our Torah states that we should rejoice when we see the wicked perish.We do that on pesach as we celebrate the drowning of the mitryim and we should celebrate every day when we hear another feigelah droped of AIDS
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Jacob | July 9, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Frum Yid:
While I generally refuse to use the holocaust as any sort of analogy because of it’s nature as a really fucked up/easy to misconstrue event, I feel this is a fair time to make this analogy:
The Anti-Semites of Europe and America undoubtedly “thanked G-d” for sending Hitler upon the yids and they enjoyed watching them die.
Judge yourself, my friend, and remember that Hasid comes from the Hebrew chesed, which translates to lovingkindness. Celebrating the slow, painful death of some unlucky fucker is not lovingkindness. Be a hasid, not a hasid shotah.
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Yesod ben Yakov Leib | July 13, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Gut YalHakian Neo Sabatein Shabbes to you and your familes,i seen god this morning down on kingston,i said,why the sad face,he said,tell them when they are thru talkin about themselves,and each other to talk to me,i am in pain,so i is,,,,,,,love yesod
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Edell Smith | July 23, 2007 at 6:14 pm
tell me wuts wrong with being gay is it that we suck dick or play with eachothers nuts. you lick pussy and your wife sucks your dick whats the differnce. back in those days their where gays but they were too afraid to cum out of the closet because of idiots like yourselves
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frumfaghag | October 3, 2007 at 1:24 am
fuck you and your fag bullshit….get real…and get down to it…all this whining is for pussies….if you want to fuck a man …so go ahead….
Torah says NO to gay sex….SORRY!!!!!!!!!!
SO GO FUCK YOUR BOYFRIEND SOMEWHERE ELSE…NOT IN THE MIKVEH YOU PIG
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frumfaghag | October 7, 2007 at 3:14 am
leah, you sound like a BEAST ….you should be in the mikveh with a mop….