if enough come forth something will be done

June 10, 2007

In 1982 I was an 11 year old camper in Gan Yisroel Montreal.One shabbos afternoon I was walking alone in the woods between the shul and the baseball field and I accidentally saw an older waiter with his pants around his ankles standing behind a tree and masturbating.

I tried to quietly walk away but he noticed me and ran up to me and told me to feel his balls.I said I dont want to feel your balls.Then he pinned my throat against a tree with his arm and said if I dont feel his balls he would kill me.

As an 11 year old I was naive and had no idea what sex was, but I did realize that I was violated.So I naturally did what I thought was the right thing and went back to my bunk and informed my counselor of what happened.I thought he would surely believe me, especially since I had red and purple marks on my neck from being thrown against a tree.

Not only did the counselor not believe me but he made fun of me,and threatened to throw me out of camp if I made up stories or told “loshon horah” about anyone.

Since my counselor who was supposed to protect me was not helping,I decided on a primitive form of street justice.I was going to let everyone in the camp know what this waiter did to me by embarrassing him in public.For the next few days, every time I saw the waiter in the lunchroom I would shout out “hey, do you want me to feel your balls”. He looked at his friends and started laughing nervously.I knew I was getting under his skin so i continued.”yeah, dont you want me to feel your balls again like you told me to do on shabbos”

The end result…..I was considered a danger to the camp and I was kicked out.

A few years later I saw this waiter again outside 770 wearing a hat and jacket.He recognized me too and walked the other way.But I was finally able to find out his name.I stored it in the back of my mind.

A few years after that, as an adult I heard his name mentioned in a conversation about child predators.I was told when he lived in Long Beach california he had raped many little boys.Entire families were destroyed by this pervert.There is a victim who is still institutionalized as an adult due to the trauma he faced by being raped.This victims family was torn apart after not being able to deal with the stress of the incident, and the parents eventually divorced.

In hindsight, I wish that my counselor and the staff of gan israel montreal would have done more to stop this pervert before he victimized others.I was only forced to touch his balls, but unfortunately other kids were forced at knifepoint to have anal sex with him.

Last I heard, this pervert was married with 4 children and living in Betar Israel.

His name is ben sherman, yemach shemoh.

Comment by HSD 06.08.07

Entry Filed under: Good vs. Evil. .

26 Comments Add your own

  • 1. bob  |  June 10, 2007 at 5:42 am

    He lives in Betar not Bet Shemesh.

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  • 2. shitalphin  |  June 10, 2007 at 11:20 am

    bob,
    thanks. we fixed it.

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  • 3. Tzemach Atlas  |  June 10, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    how do you know about the incidents with the other kids?

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  • 4. shachar  |  June 10, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    What is his full name? Lets find him and bring him to justice!!!

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  • 5. ariek  |  June 10, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    http://www.kosherkungfu.com/macnews/dec404.pdf

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  • 6. Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain  |  June 10, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    “Blessed art thou, Lord our God, King of the Universe, who makes the forbidden things permissable.” — Sabbatai Zevi

    A while back Yosef Leib [I believe it was] asked here on Cow if I, as a Sabbatian-Frankist leader, have sex with my followers. I answered him then that I do not, but that I did many years ago but have not since and, in fact, have remained celebate.

    Given the discussions going on now of inappropriate sexual behavior on the part of rabbis, I feel I should give a fuller answer to what I think was then and is now a legitimate question.

    About 25 years ago or more, when my followers all lived around me as a community, a young woman of 18-19 years of age and a young man of 20 were part of that community and lived under my roof, supported by me. They were both sexually active before coming to live with me.

    For about a year, we engaged in consensual antinomian sex, which was no secret to the other members of our community. In fact, the young woman would introduce herself as my “wife” to people. After about a year by mutual agreement, the antinomian sex stopped but the two continued living under my roof, supported by be. The young woman continued living in my home [without sex] for another 2 or three years; the young man continued living in my home [also without sex] for another 13 or 14 years. And for the past 20 years, at least, I have been intentionally celebate.

    Did I enjoy our sexual experimentation? I would be a liar if I denied it. But was it done also for antinomian, Sabbatian reasons? Most certainly. Have I done or taught anything even remotely like it since? Absolutely not. On the contrary, I have remained celebate and come to a VERY different point-of-view about “redemption through sin” as a result of the experience — a point of view I have taught publically ever since both on and off the internet. In fact, here are several of my recorded talks on the subject that you can listen to at the Donmeh West website by clicking the following links:

    04-21-07 “Reb Yakov Leib on Redemption Through Sin” 9.15 MB

    04-20-07 “The_Neo-Sabbatian_As_Sinner_But_Not_Criminal” 6.32 MB

    02-03-06 “SIN & REDEMPTION IN NEO-SABBATIAN KABBALAH”) 5.87 MB

    In summary, what I have come to is that the purpose of any act of redemption -through-sin [including but not limited to "forbidden" sex] is not for the purpose of the act itself, but for releasing the “holiness WITHIN the “evil.”

    As a result, what I have taught and practiced over the past 25 years is that such “fulfilling of a mitzvah by violating it” is even more powerfully accomplished VIRTUALLY than LITERALLY — in what the Zohar calls “The Heart-Mind of Imagination” — where, it tells us, “God is known” — rather than through the physical action of the body. This also addresses the Zoharic injunction that “nothing shall be completely revealed so long as one is under the spell of the body” by totally removing bodily action from the violation of the mitzvah and, instead, doing it THEURGICALLY in the imagination rather than LITERALLY in actual fact.

    Again, given the important direction the discussions on Cow have been taking — and given its Sabbatian-friendly focus, as well as my own — I feel that what I have discussed here is both appropriate and [I hope] instructive. Again, I give a much fuller discussion of these issues in the three recorded talks listed above, as well as many of my writings “Redemption Through Sin” and “The Limits of Antinomianism” on the Donmeh West website.

    Yalhak

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  • 7. Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain  |  June 10, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    Sorry, the links to my three talks on antinomian sex in neo-sabbatianism don’t seem to work. You can find all three of them, however, by clicking http://www.donmeh-west.com/special_topics.shtml

    yalhak

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  • 8. HSD  |  June 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    I know that some people will have a difficult time taking me seriously because of some outrageous things I do in my life, and because of crazy comments that I like to leave on the cow.I understand.

    But please know that I have a serious side as well.I would never besmirch someones reputation with such a serious allegation unless I had the facts to back it up.The incident in gan israel happened to me, so I can personally testify to it.

    I do not have permission to name 2 of his victims that I know personally.If they want to come forward it is up to them.

    I heard the perverts name mentioned a few years ago because his sister from Califronia was engaged to someone from a prominent Lubavitch family ( I think Drizin ) and the family forced their son to break off the engagement because there were questions concerning some converts in the sherman family, and because they didnt want to their son to marry into a family that had a known pedophile.

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  • 9. Moshe pipik  |  June 10, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    To HSD,

    If thats the guy you say did it to you, watch out, his Father is Big Lawyer in LA so be ready to have backup incase he brings you to court. Just FYI.

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  • 10. HSD  |  June 10, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    To Moshe Pipik-

    It was not the intention of my post to name this particular pervert because as far as I know the community (especially in los angeles) already knows about him.

    My point was rather to show the indifference that my counselor and the staff of camp gan israel showed once I reported the incident.

    I highly doubt that this lawyer would open a can of worms.If someone wants to sue me for what I wrote, I am willing to take a polygraph test.And I am sure that plenty of victims would jump on the bandwagon and sue the pervert for the things that he has done to them, if they havent already sued him.

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  • 11. Sammy  |  June 10, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    HSD, not sure why you need to drag his sister into this. I know that what you are saying about him is true. i also know that it was a long time ago. As for the ‘incidents’ that you say took place in long Beach, sorry but he never lived there. I question your motivation. Do you want money? Sympathy? I truly feel your pain but what have you gained by posting this story. Especially as there have been no aalegations or accusations about him recently. Can’t someone do tshuva? Perhaps he has…What about you???

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  • 12. bob  |  June 10, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    FYI, the “sister” in Los Angeles is not a blood relative to him.

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  • 13. shitalphin  |  June 10, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    “Can’t someone do tshuva?” -sammy

    what you’re a retarded little frumie that thinks this is about doing an aveyreh and doing tshuvah? i guess you’re against megan’s law etc.? that sexual predators should be treated like regular criminals? how do you know nothing recently has happened?

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  • 14. Sammy  |  June 10, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    Shitalphin,
    Sorry bud, but I’m not an ‘innocent frummie’. I’m also not a sorry little sap like the lot of you. I know about Ben Sherman, the people in Betar now about Ben Sherman, this is old news. Some people commit crimes, heinous ones at that, when they are younger. Does that mean that they are tar & feathered for life? If HSD wants to go after him and file criminal and/or civil charges, that’s fine by me. My problem is why bring his sister into this? Is this guilt by association? Get a fucking life and move on.

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  • 15. Chezzy  |  June 10, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Hey Guys!

    Everyone in LA, Betar etc knew about Ben. Giving details about his sister is mean spirited and serves no purpose. while I don’t agree with sammy about tshuva crap, he does have a point. Ben did these things as a teenager/adolescent. this probably was a frustrated guy that needed to get laid. Lets not victimize the victim. However, it is the opressive frum lifestyle has created these monsters.

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  • 16. kisarita  |  June 10, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    people rarely change in absence of serious consequences to their actions.

    (and sometimes not even then.)

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  • 17. bob  |  June 11, 2007 at 4:05 am

    Do you think it’s a coincidence that all these molesters end up living in Israel? Mordechai YomTov is living there peacefully along with countless others. Why is it that whenever these guys get exposed they hightail it to the holy land. There seems to be a mentality that it’s okay if they only prey on the little charedy kids in Israel.

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  • 18. anon  |  June 11, 2007 at 4:10 am

    I thought Yom Tov ended up in India?

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  • 19. Fleishike Kishke  |  June 11, 2007 at 4:21 am

    The central distinction in ancient Greek sexual relations was between taking an active or insertive role, versus a passive or penetrated one. The passive role was acceptable only for inferiors, such as women, slaves, or male youths who were not yet citizens. Hence the cultural ideal of a same-sex relationship was between an older man, probably in his 20’s or 30’s, known as the erastes, and a boy whose beard had not yet begun to grow, the eromenos or paidika. In this relationship there was courtship ritual, involving gifts (such as a rooster), and other norms. The erastes had to show that he had nobler interests in the boy, rather than a purely sexual concern. The boy was not to submit too easily, and if pursued by more than one man, was to show discretion and pick the more noble one. There is also evidence that penetration was often avoided by having the erastes face his beloved and place his penis between the thighs of the eromenos, which is known as intercrural sex. The relationship was to be temporary and should end upon the boy reaching adulthood (Dover, 1989). To continue in a submissive role even while one should be an equal citizen was considered troubling, although there certainly were many adult male same-sex relationships that were noted and not strongly stigmatized. While the passive role was thus seen as problematic, to be attracted to men was often taken as a sign of masculinity. Greek gods, such as Zeus, had stories of same-sex exploits attributed to them, as did other key figures in Greek myth and literature, such as Achilles and Hercules.

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  • 20. HSD  |  June 11, 2007 at 7:41 am

    To Sammy & Chezzy-

    I brought up his sister only as a point of reference to when I heard ben’s name bandied about.I never met her, I dont know who she is and i dont have any reason to accuse her of any wrongdoing.

    I brought up this story that happened to me only to show how ill-prepared the hareidi community is to deal with these issues.

    I am not trying to sue anyone, i am not pressing charges against anyone.My only goal is to educate people that these heinous acts occur in our community and that we must do alot more to identify and stop predators from victimizing our children.

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  • 21. Smack!  |  June 11, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Why do the comments get edited?
    Who is brandishing the scissors?

    Someone please explain?

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  • 22. almhml  |  June 11, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    I should be watching this Code

    Thank you very much

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  • 23. chabadster  |  June 12, 2007 at 5:43 am

    To HSD,

    If thats the guy you say did it to you, watch out, his Father is Big Lawyer in LA so be ready to have backup incase he brings you to court. Just FYI.
    that is the typical chabad keep quiet signal.
    so what his father is a lawyer ? and ? maybe then when someone presses criminal charges against him he will do less time for his crime, maybe you should retain his father as your legal counsel and press charges now. you were a minor when this happend right ? so now you are an adult with your own choices, like the one you made to write this.
    i am younger tham avrohom and leah and i dont know either of them on a personal level. but both of those names are not taken seriously in ch. i still am not sure if that is because they are both storytellers who are seeking attention through revenge or if it is because they have the guts to speak out about this kind of things that goes on in ch( i am more towards the second) HSD if your story is true and it seems that these are your friends why dont you make your claim more real ? sign your name to it like kleim and shemtov did to there claim. when people stand together for a cause weather good or bad they get more reaction than when they stand alone. if you really care about this and you reaally want to stop it and use your storys to change things and make a positive diference you have to be willing to stand behind your claim and do it with pride no matter what or who tries to stop you. HSD said”———–” who is HSD ? why should anyone believe you or care you are not a real person.

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  • 24. Yacov  |  June 12, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Have you contacted anyone at The Awareness Center? If you do they might put this case up on their web page. You should call Vicki Polin.

    443-857-5560

    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org

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  • 25. Mottel  |  June 13, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    The real problem above is THE STAFF DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO. I work in a shul/talmud torah and we have PROPER child protection policies about how to deal with the allegationin this situation.

    Camps and schools need the same for the sake of our ydidisher kinderlach and IT HAS TO INCLUDE GOING TO THE AUTHORITIES WHERE RELEVANT

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  • 26. Esther  |  October 15, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    To Bob, do you know the whereabouts of Yom tov? Our family has been trying to get in touch with him.

    please email me back

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