WY I’M NOT A VEGETARIAN
August 23, 2007
Vegetarians normally substitute meat with soy products.
Most soybeans these days are grown in the Amazon, which is getting destroyed to make room for the soybeans, every day more and more of this beautiful and wonderful land is getting lost.
By eating soy products we are letting the soy ranchers know that they could grow more soybeans, hence letting them cut down more trees and keep on ruining the rain forest.
I herby protest the use of soybeans and encourage you to instead eat meat.
- Nisht dere
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max kohanzad | August 23, 2007 at 9:50 am
and what land do they grow cows on?
is that different – since cows can fly?
this is the suckiest rubbish logic i’ve heard on this site in a few days!
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nisht dere | August 23, 2007 at 10:56 am
Trees are not being cut down for soybeans, the cows are on already open land, No trees are being destroyed for them.
REMEMBER
The Amazon is home to thousands of species of trees,plants,birds,frogs, and other animals that have no other home outside the Amazon and will be extinguished if we let them keep on chopping up the rain forest.
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LEAH KLEIM | August 23, 2007 at 11:06 am
Save a horse…..RIDE A COWBOY !
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nisht dere | August 23, 2007 at 11:14 am
Oh i almost forgot
THE NATIVES
What about them? were the fuck do you thing they will go?
If your thinking of telling me that they will go to the industrial city’s or even a nearby town or village, you are WONG!
They will die out overthere in no time.
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ShmorgelBorgel | August 23, 2007 at 2:57 pm
True–most of the world’s soy comes from the Amazon, but most of the South American soy is exported to Asian markets, –where there is a huge demand for soy products even among meat eaters. The US and Canada also produce and export soy, and produce enough of it for the North American soy consumers. That said, you raise a valid point about the provenance of soy and the fact that rainforest is being converted to producing that crop. Nevertheless, if you exist on a meat-centered diet, you also have to consider all the land that is being used up for cattle feed…instead of more sustainable agriculture.
I am going to call the 1-800 number listed on the back of my Silk ™ soy milk and ask ConAgra how they source their soy.
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max kohanzad | August 23, 2007 at 3:05 pm
nisht dere – you said:
” the cows are on already open land, No trees are being destroyed for them.”
are you living in some wierd frum hilucination? have you not idea about anything in the outside world?
http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/enl/vol1n3/deforestation.htm
“Today, roughly 600,000 square kilometres or 15% of the Brazilian Amazon has been deforested, an area about equal to Spain and Portugal together. Much of it is now in pasture to feed one of the fastest growing cattle herds in the world. In the nine Brazilian Amazon states that, in whole or in part, comprise the Legal Amazon there were over 47 million head of cattle in the year 2000, 80% higher than in 1990 and greater than the combined total cattle herds of Canada and Australia.”
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ShmorgelBorgel | August 23, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Hmmm…
http://www.silksoymilk.com/FAQ.aspx#AL-42
Hmmm…hmmm..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/3513607.stm
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kisarita | August 23, 2007 at 8:43 pm
i don’t know which facts are accurate but thank you for bringing the issue to light
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nisht dere | August 24, 2007 at 8:42 am
A lot of the soy that goes to the far east turns right around and come back to the states.
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Atzmus | August 24, 2007 at 10:04 am
this logic is nearly as good as why Moses was a Satmara!
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nisht dere | August 24, 2007 at 10:59 am
Max
Hilucination? maybe (after all this whole world is one big hallucination), frum? never.
I know plenty of whats happening in the outside world,that’s Wye i posted this post,what you think? i don’t have sources for what i’m saying? well i do.
here we go:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/08/070814-amazon-brazil_2.html
http://green.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/last-of-amazon.html?nav=FEATURES
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0701/feature1/
http://green.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/rainforest-threats.html?nav=FEATURES
None of these articles say anything about animal farming.
I trust the NG over ‘virtual Centre’ which i never heard of before.
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nisht dere | August 24, 2007 at 11:03 am
What the hell is a Satmara
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Jacob | August 24, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Basing your willingness to be a vegetarian on the wide usage of soy doesn’t make any sense. While many vegetarians and vegans, and perhaps ridiculously so, eat fake dead animal products made from soy, it is needless to say that there are a lot of fucking vegetables aside from soy.
Beyond that, there are many reasons to be a vegetarian.
I am vegetarian because meat doesn’t go well with my stomach,
but also because cattle farming is really fucked up for the environment, and people, and animals.
Meanwhile, while we’re all being hypocrites, oil comes from the ground and requires more oil to ship it here to use for our transportation. There are global wars being fought over oil. Environments have been destroyed as a result of this global war. Do you still use oil?
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm
i’m a vegetarian — i neither eat, wear nor use any parts of dead animals — and have been most of my life neither for health nor socio-political reasons but solely because i love them.
and yes, i also love the taste of meat, poultry and fish — but it’s not those TASTES i refuse to eat, but the ANIMALS which produce them.
So call me a hyocrite (like I give a shit) but if something substitutes for the taste of meat, poultry or fish without BEING meat, poultry or fish, I’m on it no matter what it’s made of, so long as its not dead animals.
yalhak
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nisht dere | August 24, 2007 at 4:16 pm
“but also because cattle farming is really fucked up for the environment, and people, and animals.”
So is soy farming as well.
And yes i do try to use oil as the least possible.
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nisht dere | August 24, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Yalhak
Do you care and love the animals of the Amazon?do you want them to die and be extinguished?
Well lets prevent the animals of the Amazon from dying.
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 24, 2007 at 9:10 pm
nisht dere,
no argument. but i don’t have to stop being a vegatarian and start eating meat to do that. i’ll just stop eating soybean products. no big deal for me, since they constitute very little of my diet. besides, i prefer lentils. are lentils ok?
yalhak
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 24, 2007 at 9:11 pm
or is there some reason i shouldn’t eat lentils, too? god forbid.
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 24, 2007 at 9:13 pm
oh, what about pears? do you have any objections to pears? i really like pears and it would be hard for me to give them up, but if i have to i will. anything for the cause of global peace.
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 24, 2007 at 9:22 pm
one other thing: i can’t eat watermellon; it gives me gas. but if i must eat watermellon in protest to those who eat pears (as you suggest we should eat meat in protest against the consumption of soybeans) then i’ll stop eating pears and start gorging myself on watermellon — and damn the farts.
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Jacob | August 24, 2007 at 11:09 pm
I’m not seeing why being in protest to soy means anyone should eat meat. It’s a moot point, null and void. The soy industry sucks, as do all agro-corporations, corporations in general and industry in general.
To quote the Anarchist Rabbi-
It’s not that I am particularly averse to the consumption of flesh. Rather, I feel that if another being’s life is to be taken in order to provide me with sustenance, there’s no reason why a cow or pig should have to die when this planet has approximately six billion perfectly edible humans.
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nisht dere | August 25, 2007 at 11:02 am
Yalhak
I have nothing against lentils or pears, eat as much as you want of them.
It’s a shame that you can’t eat watermelons as they happen to be one of the greatest fruits out here.
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nisht dere | August 25, 2007 at 11:38 am
Jacob
You don’t have to eat meat in order to protest soy,but if you want that taste meat it your mouth then it might as well be the real thing,in that regard, i protest.
And regards to the Anarchist Rabbi, when he gets me the flesh of a perfectly edible human i will stop eating the flesh of cows.
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Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain | August 25, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Nisht Dere
Yalhak
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shachar | August 25, 2007 at 7:32 pm
EAT CHULENT!!!
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shmendrick | August 25, 2007 at 7:41 pm
what kind of chulent?
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shachar | August 25, 2007 at 7:42 pm
There are many levels to vegitarians.
1) No red meat
2) No chicken turkey etc.
3) No fish
4) No eggs or dairy
5) Fruitarianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism
6) shitarianism = eating only shit
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shachar | August 25, 2007 at 7:49 pm
http://www.poopthebook.com/
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yoseph leib | August 27, 2007 at 9:02 pm
soy is the most meat like, and also unhealthiest, bean that there is, with the possible exception of fava beans, ymach shimom.
Dark beans are the kind people need most, and lentils will save the world if hemp doesn’t.
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yoseph leib | August 27, 2007 at 9:03 pm
lentils = moshiach ben yosef
hemp = moshiach ben dovid
and not your fucking Rebbe.
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Sholomanarchy | June 16, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Gut gezogt, all y’all.
It is said that if everyone had to hunt and kill their own food, there would be a whole lot more vegetarians.
Not the ex-bro, he would just have me fetch it for him.
Stay away from the brains, they tend to be flabby and unexercised.