Mean eyes fear Goyim

October 22, 2007

from A simple Jew

Yossele Kvetch comenting on RNachman and Don Ross

“It is a mean eye that causes one to see only ugliness and impurity in everything beyond the bounds of Israel, the unique nation. This is one of the most awful, debased forms of darkness. It damages the entire edifice of spiritual virtue, the light of which every spiritual soul seeks.”

Says Rav Kook [Mishnato shel HaRav Kook]:”

This piece is followed by comments, pilpuling about the mystery of when a voice in music is safe, differentianting between “vulgar” lyricked music and ye olde classickal music of yore, and the divine right of Rebbes to steal particular songs from the gentiles for purposes of defeating them, an old chassidic trick. Missing the point? It’s a good question: What’s safe and good to inhale from the host culture, and what’s not? Should we buy the kids I-pods? Cable? Pornography? What’s a wise filter? Because I meet modern Orthodox kids from all around, who have been lameified by their host neighborhoods and medias into shallow, petty standards of cool. Is this prevenatable? How can we filter a culture to get only the good?

—Yo

Entry Filed under: Ruckus. .

7 Comments Add your own

  • 1. mohammed  |  October 22, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    the quote is from kook ימ”ש?
    meila porn, meila shabto’us, but oisoy ho’ish?!

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  • 2. allahhuechad  |  October 22, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Yo-
    I don’t think there is or can be a community stanbard, when it comes to what degree of permissibility is ok. Probably why it’s so easy for some to just join the ultra orthodox cult- where at least you have a clear set of rules. people don’t want to hear that they actually have to be parents and see their kids as human and decide what’s appropriate based on the individual child. WE NEED RULES!

    mohammed- yeah, yeah, israel sucks, you hate kook. but don’t you ever wish you had a rebbe with (at least an attempt at) solutions, instead of just standard jewish (charedi) bitching and moaning about everything that’s wrong?

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  • 3. mohammed  |  October 22, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    Allah
    A solution to what problem?
    If you grow up in a different culture, with different music, you don’t develop a taste for it in the first place.
    What’s wrong with Moshe Goldman, Chaim Banet or Yermiya Damen?

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  • 4. szigeter  |  October 23, 2007 at 3:01 am

    i believe that k`lal yisroel went thru the same questions every time they found themselfs in new territory.

    there was always the question of what, and to what extend to benefit from the host nation`s culture, and losing a procentage to assimilation is a normal occurrence in this kind of transition

    i`m very curious of what the future holds for us, with the two main centers being erets yisroel and the sir habosor (USA), which will be jerusalem, and who babilon

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  • 5. YES  |  October 23, 2007 at 10:49 am

    Along the same lines, but even better:

    http://asimplejew.blogspot.com/2007/10/rembrandt-rav-kook.html

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  • 6. kisarita  |  October 28, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    a navi should have come and tell us

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  • 7. kisarita  |  October 28, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    not that anyone would listen, of course
    (least of all myself)

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